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Haida Raven and the First Men figure popthrough
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David Dalton
2024-12-05 04:33:46 UTC
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The Haida Raven and the First Men figure popthrough
was applied at 0424 UTC Dec. 5.

It was a 14-years-low-years one, like Moses, Mohammed,
and Rama (Jacob’s was the only human 18-years-low-years).
So it included evolution (but not to the point of creating a
new species) of humans in the original region.

It does not affect just followers of indigenous spirituality---it
affects some by belief, but also all those now in his original
region and all those descended from at least one who was
in his original region when his original working became fully on.

However if it is a non-belief popthrough for someone, it
will be overridden by a belief popthrough if there is a
conflict (e.g. the Jesus popthrough which is yet to come).

Since I am only considering popthroughs of the last
10,000 years, he must have existed in human
form within that time period.

There is more background on my Salmon on the Thorns
web page, though it is not quite up to date, and more
on recent and ongoing progress on alt.religion.druid .
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill; And the
hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)
David Dalton
2024-12-05 04:53:56 UTC
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Post by David Dalton
It was a 14-years-low-years one, like Moses, Mohammed,
and Rama (Jacob’s was the only human 18-years-low-years).
There were also five cetacean 18-years ones in the last 10,000 years,
most significantly a humpback whale of about 9000 years ago.
Post by David Dalton
So it included evolution (but not to the point of creating a
new species) of humans in the original region.
Note that Jacob’s primary siddhi was an agricultural ability
combining green thumb and animal husbandry, and he
would have introduced some agricultural lore, and in his
case the evolution included agricultural plants and animals
and birds as well as humans.

In my case my low years have lasted almost 29 years
(they would be exactly 29 years at Chinese New Year)
and my region is basically the Earth Moon system though
not including very deep inside the Earth and Moon
and I am attempting evolution of all viruses and all
DNA-based species, and my primary siddhi is matchmaking.

Also my sun stare/naked thorn hill climb/blue rose vision of
1991 occurred not long before Raven new (dark) moon and
very close to where Bill Reid’s massive cedar sculpture
of The Raven and the First Men sits in the Museum
of Anthropology at UBC. Raven (the species someone
of the west coast raven species) is a minor deity to
me. In the evolution all raven species worldwide will
merge and the species someone will be that Raven,
and the evolved ravens may be able to talk. :-)
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill; And the
hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)
David Dalton
2024-12-07 08:36:30 UTC
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Post by David Dalton
The Haida Raven and the First Men figure popthrough
was applied at 0424 UTC Dec. 5.
That wasn’t true.

December 6, 2024. To get UTC add 3.5 hours.
(St. Nicholas Day/National Day of Remembrance and Action
on Violence Against Women)

Here is a summary of some of the popthroughs that have
been applied so far, with (*) marking indigenous ones.

The recent 52 from 8:32 --> 9:33 p.m. (including some cetaceans)

Then remaining by decreasing number of someones covered
(by belief, being in original region, or by descent):

53 (Jacob) 9:46 p.m.
54 (Jesus) 9:59 p.m.
55 (Moses) 10:11 p.m.
56 (Mohammed) 10:20 p.m.
57 (Rama) 10:28 p.m.
58 (Krishna) 10:36 p.m.
59 (humpback of about 9000 years ago) 10:45 p.m.
72 (Buddha) 11:46 p.m.

December 7, 2024

Lao Tzu 12:54 a.m.
original Sleeping Beauty hero 1:40 a.m. (~4900 years ago)
Osiris 1:54 a.m.
Dionysus 2:23 a.m.
Hermes 2:27 a.m.
Prometheus (about 9300 years ago) 2:38 a.m.
Adonis 2:42 a.m.
Zoroaster 2:44 a.m.
Apollo (about 8200 years ago) 2:47 a.m.
Goibniu (or Govannon) 2:53 a.m.
Lucifer 3:15 a.m.
Loki 3:30 a.m.
(*) Quetzalcoatl 3:36 a.m.
Havamal composer 3:48 a.m.
Lleu/Lugh/Lugus 3:51 a.m.
Heracles 4:05 a.m.
Gwydion (Odin?) 4:15 a.m.
Fintan 4:41 a.m.
(*) Glooskap 4:52 a.m.
Amergin 4:57 a.m.
(*) Haida Raven and the First Men figure 4:59 a.m.

There are many yet to come, and of course I don’t yet
know all of their names (1768, including many cetaceans,
in the last 10,000 years).

Of the recent 52, the one whose hcp sub covered the most
someones was Tsangyang Gyatso (but I highly doubt that
he died at age 23), and the one with the largest original
region was a minke whale.

For atheists, the religious big names did not override
the recent 52 if there was a conflict. (And my post-popthroughs
updates will override any popthrough if there is a conflict.)

For more background see my Salmon on the Thorns web page.
For recent and ongoing progress see alt.religion.druid .
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And now the angry morning; Gives the early signs of warning; You must
face alone the plans you make; Decisions they will try to break" (S. McL.)
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